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Should I be "concerned" aboout this new "educational" toy for girls?

Looks like the Spaniards have "done it," once again.

They have produced a DOLL for very young girls, that BREAST FEEDS.

Don't believe me? Take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7PsVQH6lCQ

I've always considered myself to be an open-minded dude, but some psychologists are claiming that giving an 8-year-old girl a doll like THAT, encourages them to WANT to have someone sucking on their nipples, RIGHT AWAY, and also stimulates them to want to GET PREGNANT, as soon as possible.

So, my secondary question to you is, am I behind the times?

2992 day(s) ago

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Yes Mensan I agree with your line of thinking.
It sounds like common sense to me.
Your not behind the times Mensan. Many people today lack common sense and the ability to reason.
A parent who wants the best for their child should be able to logically reason out what is appropriate for a young child.

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MENSANgone
2951 day(s) ago
It's good to know that we are on the "same page," regarding this.

 
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dreamdancer
I heard about this and thought it quite silly. Just another way to sexualize very young girls. Not sure why anyone thought this was a good idea. Geez.

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Trissinger
I saw the video clip and there is absolutely nothing wrong with this doll. It doesn't suck, it doesn't touch the child's breast in any way, it teaches children where babies need to get their nourishment from, it will hopefully encourage children to learn that the healthiest way for a mother to feed their baby is to breastfeed him or her so that when the girl grows into womanhood and is ready to become a mother, she will choose to give her baby the best possible nutritional and healthy start in life.

If a girl doesn't wish to have the doll, then of course don't purchase if for her. But if she is interested in this, then there is absolutely no problem with it, and that from a conservative Christian.

I have seen many young female children pretend to breastfeed their dolls, especially when they see their mother breastfeeding their younger sibling. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. This has occurred for thousands of years, before any sanitized doll was in the picture.

Appropriately played with, there is only everything right with this doll. And were a girl to put this doll up to her breast, the doll has absolutely no ability to suck. Watch the video clip, that's MORE than obvious. All that happens when the doll's upper lip and nose touches the fake nipple on the apron (a nipple that looks like a 1960's flower, by the way, which might just confuse a few children) is for the doll to emit a sucking noise. Frankly, I'm a bit disappointed that the doll doesn't even look like its sucking. (!) I'd think its a bit of a rip-off and probably wouldn't buy it for a young girl for that reason. But the doll can still be used as a helpful educational teaching for children. At least the doll has a tongue that is visible when its mouth is open, so that parents can tell their children that breastfeeding by a baby is done mainly with the upper lip and the tongue.

The world is full of perverted people who love to view women as sexual objects to be seen, etc. for their pleasure --- lets go after these perverts who view women in the wrong ways first. (!) Lets go after men --- fathers, brothers, uncles, grandfathers who commit incest on their daughters, sisters, nieces, granddaughters --- that's one in four women who have been raped in their lives, many from a very young age. (!) Lets focus on jailing these raving idiot males, instead. (!)

MENSAN, there are a lot of things that it would be wise for you to oppose in this world, but I assure you as a parent, this is NOT one of them. (*Good grief*...)

And leave the teaching of breastfeeding up to parents, like Kravenhead very wisely suggested.

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I'm adding to this 6 days later, MENSAN. You know, I didn't acknowledge in the least, above, how genuinely concerned you are for the health of young girls regarding this doll --- thank-you for that. As a parent, it is good to be made aware of things like this doll so we can decided what we think about it, one way or the other.

It was good to see you here. Hope all's well with you and hope you'll post more questions!!

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Trissinger
2949 day(s) ago
Hmm, yeah, I see where your concern is coming from. Kids will always be prone to experiment a bit, have since the beginning of time I suppose.

Though in the clip I saw above, at least as far as I could tell, the baby didn't have any sucking ability and only its nose was touching the apron that was over the girl's top. But if we didn't have differing views out here, life would *TRULY* be boring. (!) ;)

Thanks for your further comments here. (And WOW did you ever post a slew of Q's! Gotta run soon, but hope to get to some before long. Good to see you back & with new people, too.)

MENSANgone
2951 day(s) ago
My sole concern, which I guess I didn't make clear in my original comments, is the AGE of the girls in question.

Respectfully, age 8 appears to be a bit "too young" for training a little girl to have her own breasts sucked upon.

I am speaking from a tiny bit of experience on this, because when I was 7 or 8, I had a female cousin who requested that I suck on HER nipples (she was 5) so she could "feel what my mommy feels," when she breast-fed her younger brother.

Being 7 or 8 (and not knowing any better, obviously) I did what she asked me to do.


Kravenhead
I'd probably be more qualified to answer, had I any children.
But I think a gray line has to be drawn socially, ahead of a defined legislative one... like I wouldn't want to see a little girl dropping a rubber newborn, umbilical cord and all, from under her skirt. Where those lines are? I couldn't say, but maybe in this particular case, the parents should be holding the pencil.
It was a lot easier when social norms were more accepted and respected by the general public, and in turn, business. It seems there are more and more boundary testers. In some ways that's good, and others bad. Public response will probably end up being the judge, for better, or worse.

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Kravenhead
2950 day(s) ago
I understand your concern, especially after your experience, and at the same time I understand the benefit of role playing (with the doll, of course).
Like I say, this is a tough call for me, so I think I'd have to leave this one to the parents, rather than legislators.

MENSANgone
2951 day(s) ago
Kraven, my sole concern, which I guess I didn't make clear in my original comments, is the AGE of the girls in question.

Respectfully, age 8 appears to be a bit "too young" for training a little girl to have her own breasts sucked upon.

I am speaking from a tiny bit of experience on this, because when I was 7 or 8, I had a female cousin who requested that I suck on HER nipples (she was 5) so she could "feel what my mommy feels," when she breast-fed her younger brother.

Being 7 or 8 (and not knowing any better, obviously) I did what she asked me to do.

Trissinger
2988 day(s) ago
There is nothing wrong with these dolls. They help young girls to role play of what it is like to feed a baby. Let's focus on getting rid of wrong attitudes towards girls and women, instead.

philosopher
2991 day(s) ago
If parents are intelligent enough not to buy them Mensan. They will go out of business.
I do agree they are not appropriate.
Nice to see you posting again.
Happy Friday.

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