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So many 'Behaviour' questions are asked...........................Obvious Flame Bait?

Why do you think such pointed questions are asked so much? They appear to all be from a certain poster.

Is it that the asker gets some sort of warped enjoyment from the answers of 2 spurious newcomers?

I would say so.

Do you think such questions should be permitted?




I shall never forget the loving support from my dear friends, Electra and Mensan, Thank you both SO MUCH! And now I have to choose a BA? Too hard :( You BOTH deserve it.

2826 day(s) ago

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Electra

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No, I don't think people who have insulted you with the EXACT SAME LANGUAGE that they have used on this site to describe you, which coincides with the language they harassed you with on AO, should be allowed to harass you and then pretend that they were using this suspiciously similar language out of the clear blue sky. It's outrageous that anyone would take their part and, on top of it, call you the names that they delight in calling you for their own sick, personal satisfaction.

Posted 2825 day(s) ago

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heatherjune
2824 day(s) ago
Thank you so much, yes I've been through it, well we both have, for so long, that trying to get others to grasp it all is difficult somewhat. Surely it should say at least Something that I left AO and joined here to get away from it and have some fun, surely they can see that I got abuse from washboard on her first day--surely it doesn't take much really, to see who the problems are? And yet, for some peculiar psychological reason, they don't!

And like you, I'm left scratching my head at the absurdity.

Electra
2822 day(s) ago
What's interesting is the number of people who just decided not to notice the abuse washboard aimed at you on the first day--her behavior was so not the behavior of a perfect stranger and only a few people had the balls to call a troll a troll. :/

heatherjune
2822 day(s) ago
Yes, I can't work that out either, I guess its not THAT important and/or they have a short memory:/

My thoughts are that they should have been thrown out straight away as it was totally unprovoked. I was amazed they weren't.

 
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Trissinger
Heather, I respectfully disagree with you on why so many behaviour questions have been posted. Long before you joined this site, behaviour questions have been posted. Yes, recent activities on any site tend to bring up topics for which questions might be asked, but this is the natural course of how Q&A sites operate.

Unlike you in this regard, I assume that 'behavioural questions' posted here have been posted in good faith, with no harm meant to you or anyone else.

Yes, I think that behaviour questions should always be permitted on a Q&A site such as this. They are interesting questions and I have no problem with them being here.

Though, going by how you responded to one question asked about 'truth', it certainly sounds like you are trying to bait others yourself by the tone of how you said what you did and by the amount of answers you left on that question... I strongly advise you to stop talking publicly on this site about this conflict you have with another individual here. You are more than welcome to email either me or other individuals here, instead.

Posted 2826 day(s) ago

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Electra
2824 day(s) ago
Triss, I've been following this back and forth between Heather and some very malicious people for some time now.

It's not the fact that behavioral based questions have been posed of late that very justly annoys Heather; it's the fact that the people posting these questions have been using the language, wording and unfounded accusations that they used against Heather to drive her off the AO site. They just don't directly mention her name, but it's the same wording, the same accusations and the same verbal abuse.

WHy is it okay to implicitly abuse another member of this site as long as you don't explicitly mention her name? ANd even this has been done by one of the "new comers"--she called Heather names, among which were "Crazy" and "paranoid" and, by obvious inference, "whore"--the exact same names that this exact same person called Heather on the AO site.

Why is it okay to abuse Heather because she's too moral to lie and pretend that she's a perfect stranger that has nothing to do with the AO debacle when these liars most definitely have a lot to do with that debacle? Heather can invent a brand new screen name and invent reasons to insult the so called "new people" on this site in exactly the same way in which they've insulted her--but she hasn't. Heather has asked for relief from abuse in her own character with her own name. THat is showing a heck of a lot more character on her part than on the part (s) of her abusers.

Me, I tend to root for the person with character, as opposed to the perpetual liars who have latched onto her for whatever insane object relations complex going on in their own heads that they may have. But one thing is clear--their psychological illnesses / obsession with "incriminating" Heather is NOT Heather's fault and Heather shouldn't be penalized for it. You're welcome to email ME for the details on this case--I can provide you a lot of evidence to the points I mention above.

Trissinger
2825 day(s) ago
Yup, I got your email to me here and I just responded to it, and I sent my email address to you again. ...

heatherjune
2825 day(s) ago
I email you, you can't be getting them, home or here.


MENSANgone
As this is an unmoderated and censorship-free Q&A website (and hopefully, Kravenhead will never see a reason to change it from that), I believe that anything a participant wishes to post, should be permitted and tolerated, except for personal attacks on another member.

Speaking only for myself, anyone (without exception) can tease me or "pick on" me, whenever they wish, because I feel that I have a fairly sophisticated sense of humor. My only admonishment to those who wish to do that, is that they be able to take it, as well as they dish it out. If they are unwilling to be on the receiving end of a playful insult or put-down, then they should not create them.

Jokes and other statements made (in jest) towards me will always be tolerated, simply because the person doing so is talking about "MENSAN," and not using my real name. If my real name is used, the statement is no longer a joke, and becomes a personal attack against me, and personal attacks against any individual are fundamentally and inherently wrong.

Every decent person in here should discourage the use of malicious personal epithets and derisive comments, by not uttering such themselves, and by encouraging others via private messages, to avoid the use of them towards another member.

If I want someone to insult someone maliciously, I can choose from the following partial list of possible recipients:

Richard Milhous Nixon
Adolph Hitler
Sen. Joseph McCarthy
George W. Bush
Patrick Buchanan
Jane Fonda

None of those listed will ever know of my insults (should I make them) and NONE of the living folks on that list (being public figures) can take any legal action against me (or anyone else who does likewise).

I'm not saying that my attitude is the "correct" one to have, of course, because my thinking may indeed be "flawed" in some way. But what I am proclaiming, is that an insult exists ONLY in the mind of the receiver. This means that if someone doesn't believe that s/he has been insulted/attacked, then maybe s/he has not been insulted/attacked.

One of my best and closest friends in here, is PUSTIC. He publicly lambastes and insults me all the time, and I don't mind it a bit, because he does so, without hate. We duel back and forth constantly, but our aim is to "entertain" and cause laughter for others, rather than to create an atmosphere of hostility.

Fortunately, our fearless leader, Kravenhead, understands that, leaves us alone, and (hopefully!) laughs right along with us.

Do I worry about the number of questions being posted by anyone in any category? Not at all, because I can post as many as I wish in any category I prefer, with impunity, as long as I don't trample on the feelings and sensitivities of others.

Should I inadvertently do that, I would hope that the "offended party" would PRIVATELY take me to task about it, so I could take corrective measures, immediately.

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heatherjune
2822 day(s) ago
Thank you both, very much x

MENSANgone
2822 day(s) ago
Electra, you wrote that, "Heather's a good person and deserves at least that much--as I think you know."

You're right; Heather is indeed a good person (as are the majority of those on here) and I'm very proud to note that she's my friend, and I sincerely hope that any/all hostilities against her will immediately cease.

She is totally undeserving of the unkind remarks that have been publicly posted against her.

Electra
2822 day(s) ago
Mensan, I think your advice comes from a good heart, but you can't expect Heather not to be properly outraged by revolting slander and then just swallow the cherry on the top where SHE gets blamed for REACTING to slander that existed BEFORE her reaction, by logical precedence.

These people obviously followed her here because they wanted to continue to torment her. I don't have a lot of time to spend online these days, but I'll spend whatever time I have making sure that SOMEONE is telling the truth. Heather's a good person and deserves at least that much--as I think you know.

MENSANgone
2825 day(s) ago
You are one of the very few members here, who knows my private e-mail address, yet you continue to post PUBLIC MESSAGES to me, here, that our adversaries can read.

Why do you do that? Why can't we discuss this, via private e-mail, from this point, forward?

heatherjune
2825 day(s) ago
I think a point lost here, is, that its not just for me, but for THEIR amusement too.

heatherjune
2825 day(s) ago
Yes, this is what I had to do on AO.. did it stop them, did it hell! A good Concept though IF it would work.

Why do you think I jumped ship?

MENSANgone
2825 day(s) ago
As long as you PUBLICLY REACT to the abuse/slander, I imagine that it will continue, unabated.

You encourage the abuse, when you react to it, because the morons think, "Oh look! I have successfully pushed her button(s)!"

Even this continued exchange of comments between friends like us, encourages them to continue.

To quote my Dentist: "Ignore your teeth and they'll go away."

So, with that admonishment in mind, "Ignore your ABUSERS, and they'll go away."

heatherjune
2825 day(s) ago
Especially when a person has had continual Public verbal abuse and character assassination.

heatherjune
2825 day(s) ago
In which case, how come 'Slander' even exists? If people weren't hurt and angry about what people verbalise and write, abuse surely wouldn't exist either.

When you have read the words or had them spoken, you do not give your consent to them not having effect. Therefore, even though it sounds good, I cannot agree with Ann Landers.

MENSANgone
2825 day(s) ago
Have someone who s/he has NOT BLOCKED, relay your private message for you, in your behalf.

A person who refuses to become upset by the ravings of a moron, will soon discover that "the moron has LEFT the building."

The late advice columnist Ann Landers said this, perfectly: "No one can 'hurt' nor 'offend' you, without your consent." [paraphrased]

heatherjune
2825 day(s) ago
Oh and take them to task privately? Well, that's difficult as she has blocked me.

heatherjune
2825 day(s) ago
I happen to think that some questions are pointedly flame-bait in order to have an abuser answer and give them that which they desire. This is not in mu imagination I can assure you. In the light of recent events it shows disrespect and complete insensitivity, which in my view, is nothing other than covert abuse--abuse, either way, it is designed to upset and annoy--however it is achieved.

If not, then why hasn't this person stopped? This person knows I find it upsetting. Good Question?

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