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Do you view consciousness as something which we will never actually define?

I think all definitions I heard are subjective and even Scientist can't explain consciousness. Maybe some day science will come close but not so far.
This is an interesting blog.
See link.
http://bigthink.com/think-tank/the-ghost-in-the-machine-unraveling-the-mystery-of-consciousness?utm_source=Big+Think+Weekly+Newsletter+Subscribers&utm_campaign=997a5a2d73-Mystery_of_Consciousness7_13_2012&utm_medium=email

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Well, never is a very long time. Let's just say that they aren't going to figure it out anytime soon.
For one thing, consciousness isn't limited to our skulls; it extends far beyond that boundary.
The evidence for that is abundant.
The mother that senses a child's peril. The twin that knows what the other is doing when they're separated by a great distance.
A sort of remote viewing is something that I experience on a regular basis.
Time and time again, while sleeping, I'll see my living room clock and the time it displays.
I'll get up and look, and what I saw was exactly right.
That's more than an internal clock, because the living room clock doesn't keep good time; it's different than the other clocks in the house.
In other words, even if I were to synchronize what the living room clock says with say a watch, if I left the house for a day or 2, when I came back they would be out of sync.
Meaning, my "internal clock" would have to be making adjustments for the discrepancy.... not likely.
I think quantum entanglement has taught us that things that are here, and there, are much more connected than most scientifically minded people thought possible.
It tells us that "things" aren't limited by location, which may very well include consciousness.
If it wasn't for the fakers like Sylvia Browne and Uri Geller, along with a host of others, I believe there would be more serious scientific research regarding the subject.
Most serious scientists don't want to be associated in any way with an industry of fakery and frauds.

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2317 day(s) ago
That's one of the reasons that it's a field that is very hard to research. Many people logically dismiss events as coincidences, and many others assign meaning to every event, forgetting about all the times they were wrong.
Only truly objective and reasonable people are really worth studying.
It's not easy for a scientist to pick them out of a crowd of respondents. So, they get very mixed results.
I think if they were to find one, they should use that one to weed out the fakers, the frauds and the confused before they begin their study.
They may get more meaningful results from a group assembled in that way.

philosopher
2317 day(s) ago
I agree Karven. I believe that we are born with a certain about of innate ability to sense things and perhaps a bit of ESP. Environment, Education and conditioning influence this as we get older. I new what was going to happen when I was younger and people were shocked how often I was correct. I had little life experience so it couldn't have been that. Despite that I was naive I sensed things. It helped me survive.
As an adult I can read most people when I meet them and talk with them. Unless they are the type that conceals all feelings. I don't like such people much. Part of this ability was learned by experience but part is my intuition. Which is something I always had a strong sense of. If it feels wrong I can't, won't do it. No matter who insist. My No is No and I will not be persuaded. I distrust some people and that is that. I am always right. When I feel bad vibrations. I don't care who does not like my resolve. Is the Universe sending me a message? I don't know. My husband would say this is nonsense but I disagree.
My husband often despairs for hours. I am busy doing what I need to and he does other important things. Suddenly I realize he has not called and become concerned. Thinking picking up whatever shouldn't take that long.
This happen last week while I was home cleaning for hours. He usually does not help me clean. Which annoys me. That is why he despairs. Than I saw him sitting in Starbucks reading the paper. I think we are connected on some level. Shortly after without calling him he pulled into the Driveway. He got out of helping me and that is unfair.
When I told him he said, you know me. He is Mr. logic. I had a visualization of him and I think that is more than knowing him.
I can not Scientifically prove this but.

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