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In life, politics, religion, and the like, is there ever a time to say, "Let's agree to disagree?"

My father taught me to agree to disagree with people, at times.
And it has been a helpful lesson in my life.

That said, I also understand the pressure some have to seek to persuade others to come to their own point of view on a matter.

How about you?

528 day(s) ago

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Kravenhead
Yup.
I always feel like when I defend my view I'm being perceived as trying to change the view of another.
If I'm asked something, I feel compelled to answer and explain my answer.
If I ignore the question, or just state that I disagree, that can be perceived as being rude, smug, or a view without basis.
My explanation is a defense of my view, and compliance in terms of responding to a question, and not an attempt to effect change in an opposing view.
In politics and religion, I'm comfortable in accepting others see things differently than I do.



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Kravenhead
523 day(s) ago
I think you just pretty much described the art of communication.
The computer guy I dealt with was terrible at it. He dominates every conversation by interrupting. He assumes incorrectly that he knows what your going to say, and then interrupts in mid sentence with off target statements that feel very condescending.
As a female, you may recognize it as man-splaining.
Very frustrating and time consuming because it takes so long to finish your thought.
I've found, with him, I have to actually say.. "Let me finish."
Which works for that particular exchange, but then he's right back at it again.

Trissinger
524 day(s) ago
We do all influence one another, in subtle, small ways, and those small ways can add up, especially (for me) if I know the person relationally, if I trust the person giving me the info., and if I've found that the info. they're providing me with is trustworthy -- we all use different types of 'filters' to figure that one out for ourselves.

Trissinger
524 day(s) ago

I guess you just "be who you are" and we'll all walk away from the conversation hopefully knowing the other person means well because they have a good heart motivation in what they say.

One simply cannot change another's mind about a matter, that's just how it is.
It's up to each individual to figure things out for themselves, which is how it should be.



Kravenhead
524 day(s) ago
The old rock and a hard place.
It's like, you want to answer your friends, but you don't want to offend or appear to be lecturing your friends via your answer.
What to do? What to say? Oh my!

Trissinger
524 day(s) ago
I hear you K--, yet, I don't agree that if you don't answer a question you are being rude. Well, okay, maybe because this is your site, essentially, and it's usually mainly you & Phil here-- yeah, I see your point here, ha!


philosopher
Tris, I have done that most of my life.
Presently I can not accept the deluded, ignorant anti U.S. constitutional republic people. They are attacking my president 24/7 and do not have a shred of documentation behind the crap they make up. I have documentation behind all I say.
These people are supporting the disciple of Satan Nazi Soros, his son, the UN's plan to destroy the U.S., all democracies, implement a fascist, evil and totalitarian new world order. They are as worthless, ignorant and weak as the morons who let Hitler take over Germany. I am fighting for my country and civilized humanity.
I will not accept the ignorance of those who deny reality. I know I am 100% correct.


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philosopher
527 day(s) ago
Tris, I advocate for, speak up for, insist that U.S. prosperity, national security and legitimate American citizens are the priority. President Trump supports this most of our congress does not. The rhinos, democrats are evil, corrupt, immoral politicians. They care only about staying in power by increasing the profit of unethical international corporations, unethical pharmaceutical companies, pleasing evil elitist like Nazi Soros, Gates and foreigners. Many support destroying America, all democracies and Soros's new world order. Those support destroy America, the new world order, work the shadow government should be arrested and indicted.
I will ever shut up. My family, I, my friends, country and civilized humanity have a right to be safe.

philosopher
527 day(s) ago
Tris, your a kind person. I emailed you.

Trissinger
527 day(s) ago
Philosopher, I would never suggest that you 'yes' those you disagree with, nor to pretend to believe what you believe others are deluded about.



If what I had shared had sounded that way to you, I sincerely apologize.

I was playing my harp earlier and thinking of you-- hope you will have a good evening, my friend--



philosopher
527 day(s) ago
Tris, people who delude themselves about what Nazi Soros those he owns want remind me of those who allowed Hilter to take over Germany slaughter Jew's and attempt to take over the world. They are denying reality. I will never yes them, or pretend to believe their delusions.

Trissinger
527 day(s) ago
Let's bring quantum mechanics/physics language into it, then...

When you make a 'measurement,' you collapse the system, the wave is collapsed.

Similarly, when you are in the process of stating your facts, that you know are 100% correct, you (and I am talking about you here, Phil,) have a tendency to

'measure'

or to

'state a judgement about'

those who you disagree with, in the process of stating what you know to be "the facts".

And because you made a 'measurement' (usually a very negative one) about those you disagree with,

you effectively have

'collapsed'

the possibility for further communication with the person you were seeking to communicate with-- the wave has collapsed and your "facts" are stuck because they are surrounded by this 'measurement' which is

your conscious viewing of the event, as interpreted through your own view of the situation.

Trissinger
527 day(s) ago
No, Philosohper, you do not.

None of us "just states" anything.

WE ALL have a 'tone' to what we say.

philosopher
527 day(s) ago
I just state facts and reality.

Trissinger
527 day(s) ago
Then there is how we say what we say...

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